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Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:20 pm

I own a 2013 M70 Retro and I ran into a problem trying to remove the K&N air filter. There were no obvious bolts to remove to release the filter and the only thing I could think of is the round disk on top of the filter must screw off to get access to the filter. Has anyone serviced their K&N filter before?
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby Sidecar Sally » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:49 pm

Being that your rig is a 2013.......I'm not able to help you without knowing your setup.

But I did find one video here of an EFI unit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nATDILXuvQ0

And this one for the older style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpVhF65Xvs0

Hopefully this helps you out. :war:
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:25 pm

Darn I already seen these two videos before I posted my question. My air filter box looks exactly like the one in the EFI video with the exception of the round disk that goes on top of the air filter. The one in the video has two bolts that stick up on the inside of the air filter to attach the round plate to. Mine has none as well as anything on the bottom of the air filter housing. My guess is my plate has to be unscrewed but the piece on the top of that plate though you can get a wrench on is on the flimsy side. I tried to unscrew the plate but the piece on top of the plate was starting to flex. I'm thinking because the air filter is slightly distorted that the disk is on to tight as well. I didn't want to use a lot of pressure trying to unscrew the plate without confirming that indeed it does unscrew first. It seem like the only logical solution to me. Thanks for trying to help it's appreciated.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby ichbinbier » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:24 pm

The Full 9 Yards wrote:Darn I already seen these two videos before I posted my question. My air filter box looks exactly like the one in the EFI video with the exception of the round disk that goes on top of the air filter. The one in the video has two bolts that stick up on the inside of the air filter to attach the round plate to. Mine has none as well as anything on the bottom of the air filter housing. My guess is my plate has to be unscrewed but the piece on the top of that plate though you can get a wrench on is on the flimsy side. I tried to unscrew the plate but the piece on top of the plate was starting to flex. I'm thinking because the air filter is slightly distorted that the disk is on to tight as well. I didn't want to use a lot of pressure trying to unscrew the plate without confirming that indeed it does unscrew first. It seem like the only logical solution to me. Thanks for trying to help it's appreciated.


Do you have this one http://live.uralcatalog.com/details/3047

or this one http://live.uralcatalog.com/details/3048?
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby Sidecar Sally » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:39 am

A photo of your setup would help out in this situation to figure out how to help you.

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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:45 am

I'm sorry guys I've been busy and haven't checked the post. Yes my air filter is the same as the photo 3047. :yep:
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:58 pm

Damn don't tell me this thing just pulls off????
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby Sidecar Bob » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:23 pm

Man that's a tiny pic.....
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:27 pm

Ya I know. I couldn't upload anything bigger than 159X100 pixels and 10 KB. Probably operator error.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:57 pm

This is a little better. It's definitely the same as the catalog detail 3047 that ichbinbier posted ( thanks by the way) which doesn't show anything holding on to the plate. I'll have another go at it tomorrow and pry carefully around the edges and see if that will release it. It must be stuck on with some secret Stalin sealant.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby Sidecar Sally » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:02 am

Yes sometimes the plate will stick to the air filter seal nicely.......that's probably all that it is.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:22 pm

Humm. Well I took off the air filter cover, reach in grabbed the air filter and pushed and pulled, jerked back and forth on it. I used enough force to move my rig and the filter didn't even budge. It's on there quite firmly, like it's bolted down. I tried to get a dull chisel between the round plate and the top of the air filter but I couldnt do that either. It's like there is a lot of downward pressure on the round plate. If you look at the picture of my air filter, the top filter seal is pushed out from the plate from about 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock. Even though the catalog diagram shows that there is nothing on the bottom of the round plate I'm still guessing that the plate screws down onto the filter.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby 2dogs1cat » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:40 pm

Hi, sorry to ask a silly question, did the dealer install the K&N filter on your M70 when you bought it new?
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:18 pm

No worries. If anyone's question is going to be silly its going to be mine ( brain injury ) LOL. My bike actually came with this filter and I'm beginning to wonder if my air filter has ever been serviced. My plan for now is to fashion a wrench out of high density plywood that would fit exactly over top of the square metal part in the center of the round plate and have handles on each end. Hopefully this way I can keep even pressure on that center part and keep it from bending and fingers crossed it will unscrew.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby Gummiente » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:08 pm

The Full 9 Yards wrote:My plan for now is to fashion a wrench out of high density plywood that would fit exactly over top of the square metal part in the center of the round plate and have handles on each end. Hopefully this way I can keep even pressure on that center part and keep it from bending and fingers crossed it will unscrew.


Do NOT attempt this, it will not end well. The top plate is NOT screwed on, it is simply held in place by the airbox lid pushing down on the rubber pad affixed to the top.

Slide a large, wide tipped standard screwdriver into the airbox from each outlet pipe and gently pry between the base of the airbox and the bottom of the air filter until it breaks loose. Then remove the filter, place it at a 45 degree angle on the workbench and give the top plate a good thwack from the inside with a mallet to separate it from the filter.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby 2dogs1cat » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:17 pm

Gummiente wrote:
The Full 9 Yards wrote:My plan for now is to fashion a wrench out of high density plywood that would fit exactly over top of the square metal part in the center of the round plate and have handles on each end. Hopefully this way I can keep even pressure on that center part and keep it from bending and fingers crossed it will unscrew.


Do NOT attempt this, it will not end well. The top plate is NOT screwed on, it is simply held in place by the airbox lid pushing down on the rubber pad affixed to the top.

Slide a large, wide tipped standard screwdriver into the airbox from each outlet pipe and gently pry between the base of the airbox and the bottom of the air filter until it breaks loose. Then remove the filter, place it at a 45 degree angle on the workbench and give the top plate a good thwack from the inside with a mallet to separate it from the filter.

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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:59 pm

Thanks for the tip Gummiente I'll give a try tomorrow. Quick question is it the fuel and oil residue that I found around the air filter that is causing it to stick?
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby Gummiente » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:33 am

The Full 9 Yards wrote:Thanks for the tip Gummiente I'll give a try tomorrow. Quick question is it the fuel and oil residue that I found around the air filter that is causing it to stick?


There should be no fuel whatsoever in the airbox. That residue comes from the crankcase vent, which enters via the hose attached to the spigot behind the baffle plate and it should be oily, but not adhesive. Most likely the rubber of the air filter has decomposed a bit and anchored itself to the airbox and top plate. I have had a few filters that needed encouragement to be removed, but not to the extreme that you're experiencing.

Once you've removed and cleaned the filter, give the airbox and top plate a good wipe, too, and apply a thin film of dielectric grease to the top and bottom of the filter. And don't forget to oil the INSIDE of the filter, not the outside.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby The Full 9 Yards » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:57 pm

OMG that air filter was stuck on there with Stalin Cement. Thanks for all your help with this guy's. Around of beers and cheers for everyone.
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Re: K&N Air Filter Removal

Unread postby Sidecar Sally » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:16 pm

Glad you were able to figure it out. :goodjob:
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